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stiker · 24.04.2014, 18:13

ATON, а вы хотя бы примерно в курсе во сколько раз разрывная нагрузка стального троса выше рабочей, как меняется несущая способность двутавровой балки при ее нагреве на 300 градусов, ну или хотя бы тепловой коэффициент расширения стали вам известен? Кроме выводов коммисии существует еще огромная техническая часть, которую изучить можно только лет за 15, да и толку от этого? Единственным доказательством подрыва башен могут служить только следы взрывчатки на несущих конструкциях, но их не найдено, не попались они, не искали их, или нашли но умолчали? Мусолить эту тему можно столько, сколько убийство Кенеди, или полет америкосов на луну.

Цитата:

Сообщение от ATON

гораздо приятнее верить в теории заговора

Нет, мне вообще по фиг причина падения башен, это должно волновать американских граждан, это их мужья, дети, жены, там погибли. Меня на сегодня больше волнует продолжение украинского срача, и как это может отразиться на моей жизни.

Shade · 24.04.2014, 18:42

Цитата:

Сообщение от stiker

Меня на сегодня больше волнует продолжение украинского срача, и как это может отразиться на моей жизни.

Вот это правильно.

Кстати что касаемо конспирологической версии что теракты 11 сентября дело рук ЦРУ то есть точно такого же типа версия что теракты в России (взрывы жилых домов и т.п) дело рук ФСБ. Политическая конспирология это неблагородная штука.

ATON · 24.04.2014, 20:26

stiker,

Цитата:

SUMMARY OF FINDINGS
Objective 1: Determine why and how WTC 1 and WTC 2 collapsed following the initial impacts of the aircraft.
The two aircraft hit the towers at high speed and did considerable damage to principal structural components (core columns, floors, and perimeter columns) that were directly impacted by the aircraft or associated debris. However, the towers withstood the impacts and would have remained standing were it not for the dislodged insulation (fireproofing) and the subsequent multi-floor fires. The robustness of the perimeter frame-tube system and the large size of the buildings h-elped the towers withstand the impact. The structural system redistributed loads from places of aircraft impact, avoiding larger scale damage upon impact. The hat truss, a feature atop each tower which was intended to support a television antenna, prevented earlier collapse of the building core. In each tower, a different combination of impact damage and heat-weakened structural components contributed to the abrupt structural collapse.
In WTC 1, the fires weakened the core columns and caused the floors on the south side of the building to sag. The floors pulled the heated south perimeter columns inward, reducing their capacity to support the building above. Their neighboring columns quickly became overloaded as columns on the south wall buckled. The top section of the building tilted to the south and began its descent. The time from aircraft impact to collapse initiation was largely determined by how long it took for the fires to weaken the building core and to reach the south side of the building and weaken the perimeter columns and floors.
In WTC 2, the core was damaged severely at the southeast corner and was restrained by the east and south walls via the hat truss and the floors. The steady burning fires on the east side of the building caused the floors there to sag. The floors pulled the heated east perimeter columns inward, reducing their capacity to support the building above. Their neighboring columns quickly became overloaded as columns on the east wall buckled. The top section of the building tilted to the east and to the south and began its descent. The time from aircraft impact to collapse initiation was largely determined by the time for the fires to weaken the perimeter columns and floor assemblies on the east and the south sides of the building. WTC2 collapsed more quickly than WTC 1 because there was more aircraft damage to the building core, including one of the heavily loaded corner columns, and there were early and persistent fires on the east side of the building, where the aircraft had extensively dislodged insulation from the structural steel.
The WTC towers likely would not have collapsed under the combined effects of aircraft impact damage and the extensive, multi-floor fires that were encountered on September11, 2001, if the thermal insulation had not been widely dislodged or had been only minimally dislodged by aircraft impact.
In the absence of structural and insulation damage, a conventional fire substantially similar to or less intense than the fires encountered on September 11, 2001, likely would not have led to the collapse of a WTC tower.
NIST found no corroborating evidence for alternative hypotheses suggesting that the WTC towers were brought down by controlled demolition using explosives planted prior to September 11, 2001. NIST also did not find any evidence that missiles were fired at or hit the towers. Instead, photographs and videos from several angles clearly showed that the collapse initiated at the fire and impact floors and that the collapse progressed from the initiating floors downward, until the dust clouds obscured the view.

stiker, вот ссылка на резюме отчета: http://www.nist.gov/el/disasterstudi.../wtc_about.cfm
А вот ответ скептикам: http://jfs.sagepub.com/content/early...34904114528457

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и сам доклад, но там больше о причинах и следствиях действий людей, а не о физике: http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report.pdf

Shade · 01.05.2014, 00:51

Дочь Лаврова получала образование в Нью-Йорке и Лондоне.

http://www.vogue.ru/magazine/articles/Lavrovyy_venok/

Вот на кого надо санкции распространять, нечего ей в пиндостане и гейропе делать.

Stek · 01.05.2014, 05:53

Shade, а дочки Путина, а?

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